They were the small sacrifices. The two older kids were Diane's with ex-husband Steve, however, Danny wasn't Steve's. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. Did Danny Downs, Steve Downs' son, remain paralyzed? They checked her shoes and they were clean. 3. You seem to forget that even a few jurors started by voting not guilty on some of the charges. I wanted to ask you something on this case. Ive been to London to Fly the Queen ~ and Back to Collect Artifacts, Haleigh Cummings Was Once Lost but Now She Is Found, Meet Rene Acoby: In-House Female Dangerous Offender, Kelli Stapleton- A Mothers Wuthering Woes. A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch.. What got her convicted was two things the towel and Christie. This is a more common route for children with parents who are incarcerated for what looks to be the entire childhood of the children. The lawsuit against Ann Rule was thrown out as unfounded because after reading her book they could find no inconsistencies She sat thru the entire trial AND used actual court transcripts. But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. Ive done my research. Therefore, to make their marriage work, they started a family, believing that it would make everything okay. I was curious as to what these requirements were, as I have not seen these online. Im from Australia and have recollections of this case. ), years in solitary confinment Whats wrong with us?! What mother takes her kids out at night and then stops for a stranger with her kids in the car? Where are Steve Downs children now? It can safely be presumed, other children told their parents, and that some of those parents reported the disturbing revelation to states Attorney, Prosecutor Fred Hugi. If it doesnt matter to you, it should. A sick kid who had a stroke and traumatized being pressured for weeks to remember her mother killing her? I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. When she resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. At the time Diane had told police that a stranger attempted to carjack her and shot the kids, and that's what her ex husband was told, too. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced: Why is it not admissible? The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb: opinion, not fact TIL On May 19, 1983, Diane Downs shot her three children and drove them at 5-7 mph to the hospital. It does not contradict what I said, but what they said. Evidence or not, they were going to do their best to put her away for life. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. After completing high school, Steve Downs went to join the Navy while Elizabeth Diane attended the Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College. You need to have your own voice," she said. Some would say that Diane Downs was condemned because of her lies and inconsistencies, but I think that it was mostly because of her disturbing demeanor and brash personality. She waseighteen and soon realized that she had jumped from the fire into the frying pan. According to Rule and the court, the unicorn was a memorial to her children that she purchased after premeditating their murder. On her way to the hospital,she was followed by someone who said she was going slow, but Diane said she was driving fairly fast. Therefore, it is hard knowing where he is right now, considering his low profile of keeping away from the spotlight. ABC MOVIE FOR TV Small Sacrifices 1989 Farrah Fawcett, Ryan ONeal. Strangely enough, a woman who was seen for 8 months by a psychologist and declared to be in shock and suffering from a mood disorder, would now be assessed by the State hired psychiatrist to confirm the label Hugi conveniently made up during trial. A test for the presence of gunshot residue conducted on Dianes hands the night of the shooting, returned a negative result (Appendix 23). Contemporary family finding principles argue that a child is best nurtured by parents, then immediate family members, extended family members, spiritual family (Godparents), close friends, etc. Whenever your shoot a gun that many times and that close to the victims, theres going to be blood and powder residues. Without the media blast and rush to judgment from the police and DAs office, we might have uncovered the truth. Steve and Diane Downs' children were adopted by Lane County prosecutor Fred Hugi and his wife, Joanne. If the police department had done their job properly, I would not have written this blog, no matter the outcome. Bannon, a former adviser . Re Diane Downs I invite reading Synopsis quite similar to above: OREGONs Juridical Small Sacrifices I was being sarcastic. What Happened to Diane Downs' Husband Following Her Sentencing? We could say that it was suggestive on his part, but considering how this trial was conducted, I tend to believe it happened. They removed them and proceeded to interrogate the poor girl until she gave them what they needed. Dianes dad died a year or two ago. Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. The children had a father. I dont know that it could get worse than writing an asinine comment on a restorative justice website that states that only respectful and constructive comments will be posted. And she would have been under supervision. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. If thats what you want then dont pretend its anything but. Danny said several times that a bad man shot them and it was written in the nurses notes, but never that his mother shot him. I have plans to go hunting with the husband of one of the alternates.. Thanks for the link. The Parole Board had an obligation to parole Diane between 1998 and 2002 if she could provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society. If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. 'Leave It to Beaver' star Tony Dow explains why he wasn't allowed to She is a monster and belongs in prison for the rest of her life. The parole board in Oregon was asking to provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society and it had to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Downs provided both. She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. Instead, it is Diane who fought to keep her children. If you shoot at least 6 inches from a victim, you see what is around you in the car. I dont. Until the end of the trial. If a person were innocent of the crime they were convicted of this puts them in a no-win situation. It was not unlike brainwashing. Because she seemed "aloof". Common sense will tell this Court, when Diane accidently slammed her mangled arm into the steering wheel of Detective Tracys car, it was ANYTHING but a laughing matter. GSR can easily fall off just by brushing your hand against a surface. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. I think she was the only one there that night with her children. Yes, I had to go and sign the lease, yes, sir. (Yes, speculative). The jurors had doubts. (This is why Foote was assigned the case. Diane was sentenced to life plus 50 years. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. If you had, you would clearly know that I do not claim her guilt or innocence. They never found the gun and she showed no signs of having fired one. In what world is that O.K. No forensic evidence pointing to her, just conjecture based on how mothers should act. In the nurses notes, she is described as in shock and unable to grasp the situation. What followed was a tragedy subject to many interpretations. Nevertheless, when Diane came back to Arizona, the pair united, and soon, on November 13, 1973, to be exact, the couple tied the knot. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. Is. Actor Robert Blake was found not guilty of the shooting murder of his wife. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? Isnt is odd how something we are exposed to as children can stick in our memory? Because she had driven that area for years for her work. Instead, the person accused of attacking them and wanting them out of her life, fought for them. Either way, it appears to be a conflict of interest. They checked her nails to see if she could have buried the gun and they were clean. She did not have the opportunity to clean her hands with the right product to erase all traces and she was tested pretty fast, contrary to many other cases. You wondered at times, which side he was working for. Their marriage was described as tumultuous, with Downs allegedly disappearing for long periods of time with her children. Ive been trying to decipher her handwriting on the couple of pages she wrote to her daughter (misquoted on here somewhere is a highlighted If you love your little boy, youll take him far away from here- why is this being taken as a threat and not a warning?!). You are not the only one who thinks she is guilty and I know that getting their man at all cost is a popular mantra, but I disagree. The former Dallas Cowboys cheerleader sparked a romantic relationship with Howey and shortly after her career took off with a little help from the Something Borrowed actor's father, who was an. So not addressing the content of the blog and rambling about everything else while asking for a disclaimer is nailing it? In the end, it is scary how media becomes some kind of Roman circus where people is thrown in order to become a source of business. It is also very is to clean. The trouble reportedly took place a day earlier when Sean Preston allegedly was behind a locked bedroom door and Jamie broke down the door to get in and then "violently shook" the child, The. He separated from his wife and was going to follow Diane who, by now, had decided to move and work in Oregon to be closer to her parents. For the upcoming Halo TV show, original Master Chief voice actor Steve Downes was recast, despite Cortana voice actor Jen Taylor reprising her role from the iconic video game franchise. It was the story of two troubled young souls trying to survive without a safety net. They are now leading their private lives as adults. Or can have an accomplice. According to TMZ, in 2017, Hudson and her former partner David Otunga "reached a temporary custody agreement which gives him custody" of their son. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. Be the first to get hottest news from our Editor-in-Chief, Check your email and confirm your subscription. If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago: speculative, Ill stop there. Once again, Diane said a lot of things. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. Christie was it though. I would like to raise the numerous issues with this blog. But strangely, they took no photos of the crime scene and did not lift fingerprints from the drivers side of the car. The detectives took Diane to the crime scene and were able to retrieve shell cases on the ground where the incident happened. The next morning Diane appeared in the courtroom with a police report written by Detective Pond a year earlier, in which Ms. Patterson was sure Diane had gone nowhere near the bathroom the night of the shooting (Appendix 62). The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. But there was a lot left unsaid about this relationship. Robert Knickerbocker Now: Where is Diane Downs' Love Interest Today? The State had the same gut feeling and made sure she would pay. The judge who took away her children presided over her criminal trial. No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. The prosecutor and his wife adopted both children that survived and although the boy is paralyzed and in a wheelchair, they trived with their new parents. So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night? It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. If there is a fair trial and sentencing, I usually dont write about a case, but high profile cases tend to need more scrutiny because emotions run high. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as Small Sacrifices. The notes taken daily by the nurses became a point of contention at trial. The fact that she and her brother Danny were eventually adopted by Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs is the most blatant case of conflict of interest I have ever heard of. The first two children were Diane's kids with her ex husband Steve Downs. Q. He gave temporary custody to Dr. Wilhite. Ruger #14-76187; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. They should have taken their timeto investigatethis case thoroughly and without prejudice. Inflammatory and speculative One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children. He asked her for the car keys and she pretended to throw them away to distract him. I simply state facts that did not or would not come out at the time or blatant misconduct from a legal system that is supposed to be based on innocent until proven guilty. Diane had met all the requirements to be paroled. The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. What about the judge stopping a defendant from getting a new attorney? I found nothing. My problem with the circumstances surrounding the crimes against these innocent children is that they were twisted by the media. that you told Diane to tell steve that she was Knicks How asinine. Diane was cooked the minute she walked in that courtroom. The forensic evidence alone is absolutely weak. May be the guy who says he did it. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. It was not the right gun. Can you imagine your little boy growing up to beat to death (with his bare hands and boots) Is she referring to her ex husband? TOP 10 why didn t steve downs get custody BEST and NEWEST Youre right to say that a GSR is not always foolproof and between 10-20% of suicide GSR kits test negative for GSR. Crime is entertainment and big money so this case will continue to be on the forefront and the same assumptions will be repeated over and over again. Where is Diane Downs' husband now? U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. 1) Gunshot residue/blood splatter. Diane downs. At the very least, she should have been released by now. (LOL!! Diane found a full-time job with the U.S. Post Office in 1981, and was stationed in Chandler. 1. Christie's first child is a boy. I think DD is guilty, but I also think her trial was far from due process, and that is the important issue. Just a thought. So I did not post your comment about his answer to your inquiry. Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to find the truth. They brought cakes and cookies and became friends so they were not going to fight over this. I dont know how familiar she was with the area, but I do not think that it matters anyway. While that makes her technically eligible for parole at some point (in her case 2009) it does not actually mean she has an end date or a release date. Late one May night in 1983, Diane Downs sped into an emergency room dropoff in Springfield, Ore., with a horrifying story to tell. Then, 10 days after Diane was sentenced to life in prison plus 50 years, she gave birth to a daughter she named Amy Elizabeth. If not, why not? They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. Her three small children, Christie, 8; Cheryl, 7; and Danny, 3 . Christie and Danny have no contact with their father, and they have completed their education. So, what happened to the children's father? Her lover and former husband testified against her but it did not represent evidence but character assassination. N u pleaded guilty of murdering ur husband. Dianes parents had high hopes for her future, a future that didnt involve Steve, so they disapproved of their relationship. She was fighting back and they did not like it. Much worse. The fact that the Hugis did so successfully is arguably proof of this. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. Instead of talking about her being locked up for so long, answer some very legitimate questions regarding this case. Dr. Joshua Budhu is a neuro-oncologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. So Mark, where are you from? Parker Schnabel's net worth in 2023: Is he the richest on Gold Rush? Diane nowhad the title ofdangerous offender. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. Great blog post, thank you. Farrah had trouble with the law because of a passionate love affair with a movie director. We make them president!!!! Unfortunately, there isn't much information about his whereabouts as he keeps a low profile. They said so and were told to go back to deliberate. Her quest for love had landed her into an unstable and loveless marriage. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. A demonstration in court strongly suggested that the shooter had to be left-handed to have been able to shoot in the car at the right angle. She unwillingly followed the cops in spite of being in pain and not wanting to leave the premises. She had one arm totally out of commission. But why was the judge in family court hopping over to criminal court? This is Budhu's story, as told to Kelly Burch . Maybe someone needs to read Part two in Dr. Billings in-depth review of the Diane Downs Murder Case in Oregon. To this day, there is not enough evidence to prove her guilt or innocence. Thanks for posting for readers. This unhealthy marriage survived and became a daily struggle. Dianewas jealous ofthe other woman, but Robert Knickerbockers wife said that she foundher rather friendly during their encounter. The unreliability of childrens testimony has been documented by cognitive psychologists such as Elizabeth Loftus of the University of Cornell and others. I felt there was something that should be done, but I was at a loss in how to cope with the Court that had given the children to the prosecutor and allowed false testimony to seal her fate. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. a clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. USA population seems to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. Except for Paul Cortez. She knew that Knickerbocker hated trouble of any kind, and thathe would have never come back to her after an ugly shooting where she had been wounded and her kids damaged. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. They often argued about their financial issues and fought over infidelities. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. The case NEVER made sense to me. 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Fitness fanatic, 27, broke her spine lifting weights but didn't realise until she woke up the next morning unable to move - and why her terrifying injury should be a warning to all gym-goers The fact that the children were in no way protected by Child Protection Services is undeniable. I've just seen that in Halo's new tv series, Steve Downes isn't going to voice master chief. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. I like the way you keep an open mind about Diane herself and what she may or may not have been going through mentally. Its too late for me to call myself a murderer (when I am not) just to purchase my freedom. A. The question is of course, how can we determine guilt or innocence without a fair trial? I almost felt bad for her.that being she seemed so lost in her lies..she just hangs in limbo now. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. The bio family should have been given the same opportunity to see the kids and demonstrate their ability to be the guardians. I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. If the answer is, to keep the public safe, then I call BS. Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. Yeah, Ive noticed a lot of people thing Jim Jagger is Fred Hugi. One of the jurors finally declared. Conflict of interest on steroids!! In a fairly good knot which would have taken time to do one handed and teeth. You seem to believe everyone is innocent. The bushy haired stranger that police had gotten a lead on worked at the country club he was at work at that time and had a sever speech impediment. Also, aside from her original mental state, which may or may not excuse her aloofness (doesnt prove shes a killer by the way! why didn't steve downs get custody - Kerryandjessica.com But her behavior became the most important factor in the investigation that followed. And to make her story believable, she shot a round in her arm before going to the hospital, claiming that she was a victim of a terrible carjacking. Instead of grieving, Alice went partying and had sex. That same gun turned up at a police raid years later in Perris, California, and it did not match the ballistics from the shooting site. So, how much do you know about him aside from this acting profile? The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. So if we started judging people harshly for their flaws, it would never end. I also wish that Dianes children have a great life. The detectives and the state failed to act properly and it should not be an accepted practice. Nowadays, this insanity would never be tolerated. It was Judge Footes first criminal case and it was against a woman whose children he had removed from her care even though she had not been convicted or sentenced; a conflict of interest and pure madness. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . The Media or ISIS? This is an extremely tragic case and her children at the very least deserve justice. Also, she became pregnant without Steve Downs' permission. Im not arguing the facts of the trial, and Im not about to. They finally charged her and she did 10 years for the death of her children. Makes major decisions easier because only one parent is legally responsible. This video has Dianes attorney, Jim Jagger, at 1 minutes and 20 seconds that might have some good shots.
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