Very Glad that you shared this to us. He is unlikely to be gracing the Libertadores for long. The club has debts of around US$ 35 million. - Blanc : "a n'arrive pas comme a". Their flight, in the same day as the match, obviously got delayed (in South America this is almost a must), and only 19 players went on board because of lack of documents (Very common here. You can easily also check the full schedule . A blast from the past. People call it predictable but no team has ever won 2 in a row. The Copa Libertadores is the showpiece club competition in South America, equivalent to the Champions League in Europe, and there were several household names in attendance at the Bernabeu,. #34 I was not suggesting compulsory groupings, merely leaving the possibility open. Nike Flight CSF. Look at ya suprise teams. Real Madrid vs Real Madrid DLS full gameplay, you can check out this article to find out more, it will go straight to penalties instead of extra time, UEFA abolished the away goals rule in June 2021, where 8 of them have to be homegrown players, the permitted size for a Copa Libertadores squad is 30, homegrown rule in the Premier League, Champions League and other competitions in my guide here, Philippe Coutinho played for Bayern Munich, against his parent club (Barcelona), read more about the loan players rules in the different leagues with my guide. "You could argue this exists already and it's called The Europa League.The Champions League is fine. All Rights Reserved. They had no other choice as their squads had been considerably weakened after winning the Libertadores. For Argentina at the Fifa World Cup 2010, who are the options at right back besides Marcos Angeleri?Chris Leonard JUAN PABLO SORIN. There is nothing to compare. He then moved to Inter in 2005, with the no-nonsense centre-back finally adding the Champions League to his collection in 2010. It seems clear that the key date was 2017. One could argue that Ronaldo was the only player to have left Man Utd against the desire of the manager and without a like for like replacement prepared in many years. 'No favourites in Copa Libertadores final' - Flamengo and Palmeiras set for clash. Yes, teams like Malmo and Steaua Bucharest occasionally got to the final, but they rarely won.-------------------------------------------------------------------------I'm sorry to disagree but CL does favour the teams from the big 5 countries because these countries get more entries via their leagues, and the number of teams you get in depends on the size of your TV market. There is a strong possibility that all four will come from Brazil and Argentina -- for the third year running. It's some pretty great info. He's had the pleasure of interviewing the likes of Tyson Fury, Gary Lineker, Amir Khan, Lennox Lewis, Joe Root, David Haye, Frank Warren, Kell Brook & Joseph Parker. For #2 Rob04, who complain that non league champions are constantly on the books, well the CL is called Champions League but it has long been a "Best of Europe" league. The CL could be predictable, but it's still exciting. The Beatles are overrated. Perhaps his relationship with Maradona's daughter, and a fear of appearing to have a 'favourite' counts against him? In the present format, the same bigger teams invariably get access to the cash. but then they do that anyway.Please explain why the PL Champions should be kept apart from the team who scraped into 4th place in the same league? America MG. View full playoff. Their football is different but they have good teams, it has become more exciting since the rise of Zenit and Kazan but beore this the league frequently, and predictably, fell to Muscovite hands.And Germany was quite predictable, and potentially still will be, due to Bayern Munich being easily the greatest side historically. Spare a thought, then, for South America, where the . CONMEBOL's Copa Libertadores is still without a champion as the confederation reportedly considers moving the postponed second-leg of the Boca Juniors vs River Plate series out of South America. Subscribe to Telegram and Twitter to get the latest updates! A memorable summer for the long-haired Argentine! Organized by CONMEBOL, it brings together the best teams in the zone every season. From Chile to Venezuela, South America is the continent if you expect to see what real football is about. The crowds wre knowledgeable and enthusiastic and it was all great entertainment. They got very lucky because the Under 20 South American League was held in the same city, and because they have the same colours as the National team, they borrowed (!) Questions on South American football to vickerycolumn@hotmail.com, and I'll pick out a couple for next week. With just six countries supplying the 16 teams in the knockout phase of the Champions League, many in Europe are concerned by excessive concentration. Libertadores Jogador Champions; Flamengo (2019) Bayern (2013) Atltico-MG (2013) Barcelona (2006) . To say it's predictable is totally wrong (at least for now). Differentials are opening up in South America; clubs that are well run, have wealthy sponsors and do well from the distribution of TV money have broken away from the rest, and are making themselves present in the closing stages of the Libertadores year after year. I have only seen a couple of Libertadores games in South America (both of them Colo Colo v Boca a couple of years ago). The knockout round starts with the round of 16. They were making the preparation of the match in Quito, in order to get used to the 2,8000 altitudes. Hooray, people discussing Libertadores again! You might end up with a South American player who won the Libertadores playing against his old club by the time they meet. Fernandez also spent two seasons in Europe - and came back from Russia and Belgium without a single league goal. Complain about this comment (Comment number 32). Complain about this comment (Comment number 23). For the latest updates across BBC blogs, visit the Blogs homepage. And 22-year-old right wing back Victor Hugo Ayala looks an interesting prospect, curling in crosses like ex-national team right back Arce, and scoring with a ferocious free-kick. Complain about this comment (Comment number 66). But so often they are excellent team players, battlers with increasingly, a good technical level as youth development work has improved in the country. The defender was therefore technically part of both title-winning teams, as River won the Copa Libertadores and Juventus lifted the 1995/96 Champions League in the very same season. What the answer is, I don't know as it is very difficult to put the Genie back into the bottle. Why Copa Libertadores is bigger than the Champions League. Another interesting blog, Tim. Complain about this comment (Comment number 61). Libertad have become a force in Paraguayan football over recent years, but have a very small support base. Are you passionate about football and want to earn some side income? I'd be curious to hear how some of these less heralded players in the line ups are viewed? If anything they should all qualify automatically and the clubs in 2nd,3rd,4th place should all have to go through a qualifying round of some sort. Also, when they go to the changing rooms, they are obligated to pass by the glass where Bocas players are warming up. Suazo (Chile) of Monterrey comes to mind, Maldonado (Venezuela) of Atlante, Itamar (Brazil) of Tigres One or two have also made successful moves from Mexico to Europe, such as Christain Bentez (Colombia?) Here, can do things differently from when we play at our own leagues. And if the 4th Premiership team is better than most of the others, be it! But we should ask a question: Where is the real love for football in this competition? And of all the 'exceptions' or 'surprises' that people have mentioned above, only one (i.e. Apart from a few clubs, especially from the United Kingdom and Eastern European countries, the Champions League is much more of a business rather than true passion. Complain about this comment (Comment number 40). 23 - zabaleta hasn't played under maradona - he was called upfor the last 2 rounds of world cup qualifying, but had to drop out injured.maradona has had a look at so many players - for someone to break in from outside at this late stage is unlikely, but not impossible. Read more. Sorin was part of Juves Champions League winning side of 1996 and he went on to lift the Copa Libertadores trophy the very same year with River Plate. Complain about this comment (Comment number 30). In this way, there is an equal chance for both teams to perform well in front of their fans! Alianza Lima caused an upset by beating Estudiantes. It all comes down to the mighty $, , or whatever the strongest currency is at the time. Obviously, 2019 winner Flamengo heads into Sunday's showdown the much stronger side and the clear favorite. Origin of teams The CONCACAF Champions League is organized by CONCACAFfor the best clubs in Central, North America & the Caribbean. The Copa Libertadores is a seasonal association football competition that was established in 1960. Complain about this comment (Comment number 55), Firstly, as a new subscriber, Tim your blogs fill holes in my life i never knew I had. The South American game is pure, basic and brilliant. World Cup: The 10 highest-scoring matches, featuring Brazil, Argentina & France, World Cup: Zinedine Zidane's iconic 2006 tournament remembered, Chelsea vs Arsenal: Aubameyang's 'strange' TV advert ahead of Premier League clash, Arsenal fans 'will be praying' about 200k-a-week star at the Emirates, Liverpool now have worrying 'bad habit' under Klopp at Anfield. By 'fresh product' I meant to many people in Western Europe who have recently found the Libertadores.Television in the 90's and possibly past the noughties in the UK was so diluted by the old-money European Cup, UEFA Cup and UEFA CWC that our viewing of the Libertadores arrived with the invention of satellite television or the internet, depending on their view.Hence I used the 'fresh product' title to recent viewers - not how long the tourney has been going on for.Hope that clears up matters. Now that may have happened before but now the CL rewards them to an even greater extent. Why is it that so many players from Paraguay are coming to play in Mexico, and do you think the recent incident with Salvador Cabaas, who to me has been the closest to emulating what Cardozo did in Mexico, discourage Paraguayan players from coming to Mexico?Rafael Diaz 21 - that's an easy one to answer! Great blog as ever, good to see Robinho back at Santos and coming off the bench to score to the winner. Specials; Thermo King. You're saying more teams from 'lesser' countries gives more opportunity for them to qualify- of course it does, but it also dilutes the competition.If Swedish teams do better in European competition, they earn an extra place. Competing for a place in the quarterfinals for the most important tournament in South America, at La Bombonera, the game got was suspended after players from the River Plate were hit by pepper spray at the return of the break time, which left a suspenseful mood for over an hour until the refereeing trio stopped the match. Home of superstars, such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, and Neymar. Complain about this comment (Comment number 44). So with that in mind, it got us thinking, which players have lifted club footballs biggest prizes in both South America and Europe? Complain about this comment (Comment number 41). The Rubro-Negro clinched their third Copa Libertadores crown with Saturday's 1-0 victory over Athletico after Gabriel Barbosa's strike in the 45th minute. For next week's friendly against Germany his club-mate Clemente Rodriguez has been called up but I really don't see him as a viable option. 2021. Unbelievable, they won the game and went to the next round! According my opinion, Copa Libertadores is better than Champions League, cause, many South American player play batter than European player in Champions League. However, the Champions League may have more prestige due to its widespread popularity, as compared to the Copa Libertadores. I am a Manchester City fan and a big fan of Zabaleta. In my opinion if you mixed the quality of the CL, the more even playing field of South America and the raw passion too, you'd have one hell of a tournament!Champions League wins for qualityCopa Libertadores wins for unpredictability and passion. Good blog, shame the header invites the same old drone about the champion's (or 2nd, 3rd or 4th placed) league.38 - I agree, and imagine european teams without any south americans? Only one team (Porto) from outside the big 5 have contested a CL final since it started. Both the Champions League and Copa Libertadores winners will immediately qualify for the respective competitions next season. Back to South America though I notice that Adriano has been linked with a return to Italy with Roma. Since when is finishing 20 points (maybe an exaggeration) off 1st place a success? Hi Tim, running out of ideas for this week's article, are we? This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Depends on what you like to watch. That is my main issue with football at the moment "the race for 4th place". A Brazilian legend and one of the four on the list to have won the World Cup as well. It's a perverse view, often motivated by bitterness - a bit like those who like to claim that The Beatles were over-rated. The CONMEBOL Libertadores, also known as the Copa Libertadores de Amrica (Portuguese: Copa Libertadores da Amrica), is an annual international club football competition organized by CONMEBOL since 1960. He could add to that European trophy haul with Juventus in the near future as well. The CL is dominated by TV markets and too many clubs from the big 5 (England, Italy, Spain, Germany and France) get a priveliged entry to the competition and the financial rewards that come with that. bubble fonts on canva first name numerology. However, this is not mentioned in the rules by UEFA or CONMEBOL. This only measures the number of teams that appear in the competition proper (from the group stages onwards). Obviously it doesn't match CL on ability on shown, but neverthless always a great tournament. Forget the European scarfs, people either dress up with the whole kit or take off the shirt and show to the world their tattoos. Complain about this comment (Comment number 20). And obviously having 4 teams qualifying from one country whilst champions from other leagues don't is extremely unfair. Answer (1 of 2): I live in Chile and have supported Arsenal for over 10 years so I feel qualified to give an answer here. Of course, Boca fans were the main responsible for that. Complain about this comment (Comment number 27). Copa Libertadores has been around since 1960 when it was orgnized for the very first time. "And still win it (22 out of 43 (Toyota Cup) and 3 out of 6 (CWC))!That's why the South American football is so great in all senses. I doubt that the shooting of Cabanas - who I believe has now moved out of the intensive care unit - will have much effect on the trade. Does anyone remember BOCA Juniors dancing tango around Real Madrid some years back? Ulf from bersetzung, Complain about this comment (Comment number 99), Complain about this comment (Comment number 100). Even today my favourite club in Mexico, Pumas UNAM, has two Paraguayan players in Dario Veron and Dante Lopez who were vital in winning the league title recently. Simply expand the timeline and you will see that the core of top European teams, is unchanging, but there is an ebb and flow which sees other teams join the party for a period and then recede. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[320,50],'footballhandbook_com-banner-1','ezslot_5',128,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footballhandbook_com-banner-1-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[320,50],'footballhandbook_com-banner-1','ezslot_6',128,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footballhandbook_com-banner-1-0_1');.banner-1-multi-128{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:7px!important;margin-left:0!important;margin-right:0!important;margin-top:7px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:50px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}The Champions League usually runs the span of around 11 months, usually between June to May. -------------------------------------------South American clubs won only 5 out of the last 15 Toyota Cups played and it was mostly due to very defensive displays and counterattacking football. -----------------------------------------------------------------------It simply not true to say that the same teams dominate.-----------------------------------------------------------------------That's not the arguement is it - the same countries dominate. 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